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Skull ID ?
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 06:21 PM
Found this while out fishin' yesterday and yes someone had put it in a tree. Google search and the size of it came up as a muskrat but very similar to a common rat ? The pics are so similar in google images it's hard to tell but it would have been a pretty big rat.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 07:14 PM
all I can tell you is that it looks like its from a rodent of some sorts
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 07:51 PM
Beaver maybe?
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 08:49 PM
Dave .....I think that is a muskrat skull . I posted a picture of an identical skull that I found moose hunting near Thunder Bay a few years ago . I thought you seen it sitting on the old aquarium book shelf . I googled up "rodent skulls ontario" and found this right on top .........
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...%26tbs%3Disch:1
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...%26tbs%3Disch:1
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 08:59 PM
smerchly, on Apr 5 2010, 09:49 PM, said:
Dave .....I think that is a muskrat skull . I posted a picture of an identical skull that I found moose hunting near Thunder Bay a few years ago . I thought you seen it sitting on the old aquarium book shelf .
I don't remember seeing it at your place Bill and I figured it must be a muskrat. It is missing a top part of the skull when I searched through images where the nose would be.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:23 PM
just got back from catching 30 worms in 5 minutes 
........Yes Dave , I posted the skull and was also looking for an answer . I thought it might be a mink or otter since it was way out in the boonies near Arrow Lake which runs along the Minnesota border . I dunked it in a bleach/water bath for an hour and cleaned it up nice & white .
the beaver skull has the same coloured teeth but the shull is rounder & stronger.......
http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=e...sa=N&tab=iw
........Yes Dave , I posted the skull and was also looking for an answer . I thought it might be a mink or otter since it was way out in the boonies near Arrow Lake which runs along the Minnesota border . I dunked it in a bleach/water bath for an hour and cleaned it up nice & white .the beaver skull has the same coloured teeth but the shull is rounder & stronger.......
http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=e...sa=N&tab=iw
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:36 PM
My guess is muskrat. Not having any thing to scale it with makes ID a little difficult. But I think a beaver skull would be much more heavily built.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:51 PM
It was about 2.5 " long and I thought it was too big to be a rat but curious as to how similar the google images are between rat and muskat. Just like anything on the net I figure google images for common rat are not accurate or only a DNA test will solve it. 
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:08 PM
Even the skull of a rat is dependant on sub specie and race. Ive seen right big rats in the Toronto underground. 3 foot is no exaggeration. Hence the difficulty in distinguishing apart from a muskrat.
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:31 PM
I've seen some huge rats at gate 12
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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:32 PM
bigugli, on Apr 6 2010, 12:08 AM, said:
Even the skull of a rat is dependant on sub specie and race. Ive seen right big rats in the Toronto underground. 3 foot is no exaggeration. Hence the difficulty in distinguishing apart from a muskrat.
Three feet long common rats ??? Are u not kidding Bruce ???
Must be from eating those 3" city cockroaches down there and not the South American type either.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:54 AM
chilli, on Apr 6 2010, 12:31 AM, said:
I've seen some huge rats at gate 12
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:25 AM
Rockfish, on Apr 6 2010, 12:32 AM, said:
Three feet long common rats ??? Are u not kidding Bruce ??? Must be from eating those 3" city cockroaches down there and not the South American type either.
Must be from eating those 3" city cockroaches down there and not the South American type either.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:55 AM
I have one of those, and strongly believe it to be a muskrat, since you found it near water.. did you notice the entire deer skeleton on the opposite side from where your picture was taken?
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 02:25 PM
I don't think it's a muskrat. I found a picture of one.
Rockfish, on Apr 5 2010, 07:21 PM, said:
Found this while out fishin' yesterday and yes someone had put it in a tree. Google search and the size of it came up as a muskrat but very similar to a common rat ? The pics are so similar in google images it's hard to tell but it would have been a pretty big rat.
Edited by chilli, 06 July 2010 - 02:46 PM.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 04:19 PM
spottedGARRR, on Apr 6 2010, 09:55 AM, said:
I have one of those, and strongly believe it to be a muskrat, since you found it near water.. did you notice the entire deer skeleton on the opposite side from where your picture was taken?
We didn't try fishing on that side and I'll take a look next time I go, cool find.
Horn, on Apr 6 2010, 03:25 PM, said:
I don't think it's a muskrat. I found a picture of one.
Like I said the skull I found is missing a top part of bone where the nose would be and the 2 front yellow teeth do match up with muskat and common rat images. I was just guessing on the measurement and it was between 2.5 - 3" long, that's why I figured it was too big to be a rat until Bruce told me about sewer rats, lol.
Edited by Rockfish, 06 April 2010 - 04:20 PM.
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Posted 19 May 2010 - 05:19 PM
Muskrat without a doubt...
Horn, on Apr 6 2010, 03:25 PM, said:
I don't think it's a muskrat. I found a picture of one.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 02:15 PM
Still, pretty cool picture nonetheless.
I love finding little things like that, even if they are sort of creepy in a Blair Witch kind of way.
I love finding little things like that, even if they are sort of creepy in a Blair Witch kind of way.
Rockfish, on Apr 6 2010, 05:19 PM, said:
We didn't try fishing on that side and I'll take a look next time I go, cool find.
Like I said the skull I found is missing a top part of bone where the nose would be and the 2 front yellow teeth do match up with muskat and common rat images. I was just guessing on the measurement and it was between 2.5 - 3" long, that's why I figured it was too big to be a rat until Bruce told me about sewer rats, lol.
Like I said the skull I found is missing a top part of bone where the nose would be and the 2 front yellow teeth do match up with muskat and common rat images. I was just guessing on the measurement and it was between 2.5 - 3" long, that's why I figured it was too big to be a rat until Bruce told me about sewer rats, lol.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 04:34 PM
velociraptor imo
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riverfisher22, on Jul 6 2010, 05:34 PM, said:
velociraptor imo
Lol, I'm sure I've seen a couple running around Thorold.
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