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[smerchly]

How do you feel about this one ? Do the beavers have a right to live or do the dogs have a right to swim in the beavers territory ?

http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/Article....aspx?e=2671959

[Dark_Edge]

People are willing to relocate the beavers. I say do that. Better than killing them off. But what do I know. I'm just the average Joe.

[hammercarp]

Professional trappers will take care of it in the most effecient manner. Some 330 Conibears will solve that problem. The aggression may be the result of over population pressure so periodically taking some of them out may be required.

[spottedGARRR]

i agree with hammer, if the park has been available to the public for 20 years and there has never been an attack before, theres likely an over population problem causing alot of stress and tension. i know when i feel crowded in my honey hole i'm likely to get fierce with intruders.

[smerchly]

I agree with the over pop. of beavers and culling them .....but to what degree ? Allow only the dogs to have the water for playing & kill off all the beavers ? I believe their is room for both ,but even then a dog can still be attacked and also a dog will attack a beaver ....and lose . The Americans killed 400 Canada geese because they're a threat to jets....no problem with that because of the potential downing of the jets . I hope they used the meat..... Looking at this another way , we humans have populated the beavers old territory and squeezed them into a few small areas . Time will certainly mean the extinction of many creatures due to urban expansion , so the demise of beavers locally is just a natural progression . I would favour live trapping some of them & relocate them, but that is costly & who will pay ? The Canadian nickle has a beaver on it ! I find it a little sad we don't want these animals in our territory now .

[chilli]

Your only relocating the problem. Either cull them or post a sign warning about aggressive beavers like the one outside the Croft. Urban wildlife conflicts happen. Take out the aggressive one and try to make habitat improvements so the problems are less likely. On the note of development; almost all of it centers around water so stuff like this one is bound to be a problem.

[bucketmouthjohnny]

i say relocate the people!! it's a freakin beaver, you ever see them walk, not the swiftest animal, and they aren't hard to notice in the water either. I think people are just stupid nowadays, if you see a beaver in the water, than don't throw the damn stick in the water for your dog. A warning sign should suffice but like I said, people today are lazy/stupid and ignorant, it's all about me me me!!!
example of lazy; I walk my daughter to school, there is a marked crosswalk for the kids to walk across. this B**** every morning parks her SUV right in the middle of the walkway, than sits there till her kids are well into the school yard, (roughly 60 feet). Unfortunately, all the other kids, have to walk out of the walkway into the traffic (which isn't too terrible, except for the other B that drives like goggles paesano) but nonetheless. I walked up to her window and nicely said that she was blocking the walkway, and she said pigheadedly with a snarky remark, "my kids safety comes first" and than I said, oh I see, let all the other kids walk into danger, as long as your kids are safe. Than i said, maybe if you weren't so damn lazy, you could park your p o s like most other parents and walk your child into the lot, if you really care about your child. WTF happened, parents in to much of a hurry to even get out and walk their kid into the school yard. I see it all the time now, makes me sick, so yea, save the BEAVERS!!!!!

[bucketmouthjohnny]

sorry for my rant...

[cruddler]

nothin worse than angry beaver....I don't want my stick chewed on!

[Dark_Edge]

Maybe we could hold a swill, raise money for the relocation of the beavers?

At the very least, there should be signs up (sadly, for the average moron today, they'd have to be at 2, 4, and 6 foot levels, spaced out every three feet for them to be fully seen). Post on the signs, "Dog owners are responsible for all dog actions. Any wildlife confrontation is solely the responsibility of the dog's owner." See how many people let their dogs go by the beavers then.

[chilli]

I've changed my mind on this one after taking the time to read it. I don't think having an offleash park is a good idea around a wetland. Pet vs nature I pick nature. Fence your yard or keep it on a leash or fenced off leash park. Dogs chase things and don't belong unleashed in sanctuaries or sensitive wildlife areas.

[bigugli]

Dogs left loose often harass and injure young deer. Good to see Ma Nature chalking one up.

[bucketmouthjohnny]

Exactly Chilli, what's next, a snapping turtle took a chunk off my dog, OFF WITH ITS HEAD!!! A muskie swiped at my dog and sliced it open, kill all muskie.. it is not like the ferocious beaver is lurking just under the surface, waiting to sink his massive razor sharp teeth into some soft furry warm blooded animal he is very observable, people just need to use better judgement. They closed a dump down at dusk up north where we used to go watch the bears come and rummage, many moons ago. WHY because some jack$$$ thought he would let his kids outside to pet the cubs. Well, mama bear didn't like this very much and the father took his shotgun out and blasted the bear, thanks jerk, we as kids loved going there and watching the bears, as well as many other people, but unlike you, we kept inside the car, and had the windows closed

[smerchly]

They interviewed a guy on TV who had to get his lab stitched up from a beaver bite or two near the hind end . He admitted the dog went after a beaver cub & ma beaver went after the dog to protect her young . He said it was the dogs fault for chasing the little beaver . He also stated there had been a couple offers to relocate the beaver family to their own private ponds . We need a little give & take in these situations ,but as Chilli stated , dogs should not be harressing any wildlife so these leash free parks should be fenced & a small fee should be paid to erect & maintain these fences & playgrounds for our canine friends.