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#1 PickerelHunter

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 02:56 PM

I use 20lb fireline on one of my rods, usually use it for larger fish obviously. I've been tieing a 2-3 foot leader of p-line, the flourocarbon coated one, of 8lbs and using it weedless for bass...it's been working great, much better with the leader then with just the fireline (which is more visible), but the p-line frays much quicker then I expect and lost the rig a couple times with only a slight tug when it was stuck between rocks...can anyone recommend a good line to use as a leader in log, weed, rock conditions that is tougher, yet not noticable enough under water to spook the fish?

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 03:11 PM

try 14# or 17 # flouro, if your chuckin 8# line into trees, logs, and heavy crap and think you are going to haul hawgs out of there with that without losing quite a few you better rethink?? :dunno: now even if you are just fishing moderate heavy cover i would go with a 12# leader, trust me, you won't lose many strikes you get with 8# and you will know you can land what does strike, hope this helps. :angry2:



forgot, i use vanish, its very abrasion resilient. i hear the REAL (not coated) p line flouro is good but haven't used it
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 03:20 PM

I agree with Johny, since florocarbon virtually disappears underwater it doesn't matter what pound test you use so opt for heavier 14 or 17. I'm experimenting with the new Seagar Florocarbon and have been happy with the results.

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 05:13 PM

View Postbucketmouthjohnny, on Jun 28 2006, 04:11 PM, said:

try 14# or 17 # flouro, if your chuckin 8# line into trees, logs, and heavy crap and think you are going to haul hawgs out of there with that without losing quite a few you better rethink?? :dunno: now even if you are just fishing moderate heavy cover i would go with a 12# leader, trust me, you won't lose many strikes you get with 8# and you will know you can land what does strike, hope this helps. :angry2:
forgot, i use vanish, its very abrasion resilient. i hear the REAL (not coated) p line flouro is good but haven't used it


No actually p-line is Garbage...I know the 8lb is for sure...I used it... lost lures ,fish and money over that crap......Id rather pickup the $3 buck red wolf from crapy tire then p-line thats for sure.

Its horrible dont ever buy it.


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Posted 28 June 2006 - 05:29 PM

:angry2: well i'm glad i didn't try it :dunno: Vanish has worked for me for several years now much like xt, very dependable for me, had a bad spool of xl and won't try it again. :(
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 05:51 PM

No vanish is good..and your right very dependable...as for fireline its strong, but you really have to be careful when casting because I have had it snap a couple times on me....other then that I have it on 2 of my rods...I like it because when Im jiggn for bass I dont have to worry about running into a muskie or pike because the line is really tuff...but then again who knows if a pike/muskie can bite through it??


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Posted 28 June 2006 - 07:11 PM

oh, trust me, a pike can cut through fireline like a hot knife through butter, been there, done that, thought i didn't need a leader, WRONG!!!! thank the lord i was fishing for them with a 10 inch worm so i only lost my worm/hook /sinker, it goes like this, tap, tap, set the hook only to see your line blowing in the wind, real funny :angry2: but get hung up on something and God almighty if you can't snap the bloody stuff, i usually wrap it around my pliers a few times and start moving till the hook straightens out :dunno:
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 08:06 PM

Bucketmouth: When Im fishing for pike/muskie I mostly use spinnerbaits and bucktails...so I usually wont use a leader...rarely have a brake off. Its when fishing with minnows and worms and any small bait the fish will swallow whole ...thats when your line will definetly get eatn LOL....Spider wire on the other hand is alot harder for them to snap.....

Used to use it before the fireline...Do they still sell that stuff??

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:15 PM

i have been using 12# Seaguar floracarbon line for leaders..and 20 or 30lb braid for main line..i have had no problemd pulling 3+ pounders out of the grass/pads so far im using a small swivle to attatch the 2 lines
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:23 PM

Any one else see some thing wrong with 17lb line for 5lb-6lb fish :blink:

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 10:18 PM

i find that the power pro line works better than the fireline doesn't break as easy and can get out of any snag.

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Posted 29 June 2006 - 07:10 AM

I have to agree that P-line Flouroclear is crap. I used it for one T a few years back and broke off almost every bite. I switched over to the regular P-line Flourocarbon 10lb and I have to say it's great. I haven't had any problems with breakoffs when the line is nicked. My main line when I use a leader is Power Pro 20lb.

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Posted 29 June 2006 - 07:20 AM

Go with the Vanish. Been using it for years as a leader and its ben great. I use 30lb Fins PRT braid and vanish as a leeader and the combo works awesome.

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Posted 29 June 2006 - 07:26 AM

View Postnew perch man, on Jun 28 2006, 10:23 PM, said:

Any one else see some thing wrong with 17lb line for 5lb-6lb fish :Gonefishing:

Jeff

jeff when you get into the pads with a 3+ lb largie you end up brining up 10 lbs of weed and 3 lbs of fish
if you do it with 8lb test line you end up brining up nothing as you break off in the pads the fish still has a bait stuck in its mouth and will probally die... i hope that explanes it better to ya.. its not like fishn trout where we can use 4lb leaders and land 10 lb fish..
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Posted 29 June 2006 - 08:35 AM

I agree FOG, lilly pads especially are brutal on the line. Don't forget about tree branches, docks, rocks, and zebra mussels. Would rather have too heavy a line than break off every fish. The fight with largies is to get them up and out of the trouble, different than an open water trout fight on a long soft rod.
I don't think heavier line takes away from the fight at all.





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