dr_feelgood Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 It's safe for now to be a landfill coyote. In September, Niagara Region agreed to allow limited hunting in the forest around the Niagara Road 12 landfill, which borders West Lincoln and Grimsby. Nearby farmers had asked for the one-year experiment, arguing the growing coyote population endangers their livestock and children. But protests from other residents have prompted regional council to back off on the plan until after a new debate, possibly at a Nov. 20 committee meeting. "There has to be alternatives other than killing them," said Grimsby resident Jan Yates, who has written several letters panning the hunting proposal. Yates said hunting on Niagara Region property could be dangerous for people. She also suggested non-lethal controls like guard dogs, fencing or noise devices could work for farmers. The coyote population is up in Niagara, said Kathy Richardson, a senior fish and wildlife specialist with the local office of Ministry of Natural Resources. Complaints by residents and sightings reported by hunters have jumped since 2007, she said. Licensed hunters can kill coyotes year-round in Niagara, provided municipal bylaws don't forbid it, Richardson said. Farmers and other landowners are also permitted to kill coyotes on their land to protect property or livestock, she added. But farmers believe coyotes lurk at the landfill to avoid hunters, then feast on calves and poultry at neighbouring farms, according to a recent regional report. The proposed agreement wouldn't allow free-for-all hunting of coyotes, said Silvio Mucciarelli, an associate waste director at the Region. Hunters would have to be licensed, insured members of the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters. Hunting would occur only in the woodlot beside the landfill. hunting would be restricted to short windows outside regular landfill hours. "This would be something to specifically help neighbouring landowners only," he said. "It would be case-by-case." So far, three landfill neighbours have expressed interest in signing a hunting agreement with the Region, said Mucciarelli -- but none did so before council suspended the plan. Council could discuss the proposal again as early as Nov. 20, but Mucciarelli said a busy schedule could push the debate into January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Andrews Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Odd how theygot the date wrong. Its the 19th at 1pm. Doc which paper gets credit for this error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_feelgood Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Odd how theygot the date wrong. Its the 19th at 1pm. Doc which paper gets credit for this error? sub standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Andrews Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 http://www.simcoereformer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1410306 Seems like its a growing concern. The local wildlife biologist told me that populations will always rise and fall but this time it seems different. The mange 2 years ago barely put a dent in their population. I still think the sudden lack of coyote hunting and broader no fire zones has more impact on the coyote population but that's an uneducated assumption. Perhaps it's time to bring coyote fur back into style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwl Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 my opinion the population in the Niagara Area has been too big for over 20 years, there are spots I go fishing sometimes when it gets dark you can hear alot of them and bigger packs than 4-5 dogs for sure. Stevensville,Chippawa,Welland,Thorold are some areas that come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I've seen 2 packs with more than 10 yotes the past year. The one pack just 200yds. from the local sports park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Andrews Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Coyote watch says they DO NOT pack up. We just spend our time outdoors but they're the experts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Coyote watch says they DO NOT pack up. We just spend our time outdoors but they're the experts Then maybe Herb is right in his assertion that these are brush wolves we're seeing? Something local experts claim is impossible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Over 30 yrs.ago I saw coyotes near the GM plant at Glendale . I have a picture of one I took from a traffic circle at the skyway bridge & also saw a dead one on the shoulder of the road there . Now , there are houses & businesses all over that area ....& I agree that richer people are building their mansions in the country , forcing all wildlife to live in smaller quarters .These people then decide they want paved streets , steetlights , sidewalks and a store nearby or a new shopping mall ! Looking years down the road , wildlife will be a memory in this area . Because we have interferred with the natural process , we also have to manage their numbers now , from deer on Navy Island to coyotes on the farmlands . So ,city slickers who like to walk Fluffy should heed the advice of farmers ......or carry a 12 gauge with them...... This from the dictionary ......tons of info ......gets very complicated when dealing with so many sub-species ...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote Brush Wolf or Coyote .....I don't see the difference according to the info here... http://www.kwic.com/~pagodavista/schoolhou...mals/wolves.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Nagy Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Saw a nice healthy looking Coyote this morning on the way to work here in NOTL. Haven't spotted the Road Runner yet.....meep meep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham&eggs Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Coyotes,I find them interesting animals.See lots of them.Wed. nights after hockey ,usually take the same way home, have seen have seen a few coyotes & many deer.Usually see them in 2 different spots.Always slow down anticipating something to be seen.The one spot is 1min. from my house.Hear them quite abit,gets my dog,s attention pretty quick.Seen a few out on walks with the dog in a local bush.Usually they are crossing a path many yards ahead of me, they take a quick look & gone.Have to admit gets the heart pumping for a sec. (when in the bush)when they turn & look at you.I know I can skate fast but not run fast,lol.I,m always cautious when out in the bush though.some very interesting info. on this topic.take care Oh yeah ,funny Rich,,meep meep,,my laugh for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwolRJ Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Just part of our government they like us bending over for em. Maybe one day we will get a PM that has actually been a Farmer or held a fishing pole or a gun. Let one of them spoiled politcians take there little 1 pound couple thousand dollar Shizt-zu out for a pee and get eaten, they will be begging for hunters to clean up the yotes! I'm sure they wouldn't have any problems with over population and alot more younger people would be out there in the woods if they didn't start the stupid FAC. I took my hunting safety course 15 years ago then they pulled this crap right after, just another money grab. The guns on the streets aren't for hunting there for killing and they seem to be on the rise with 12 year olds killing people, yet I can't take my Grandpa's 12 guage out and feed my family. Lotta good the FAC or whatever they wanna call it now did. I would rather go down to the states for deer then enter in a lottery and all this BS up here. So much for keeping the money in Canada. I'm sure alot more Americans would come up hunting like they used to years ago aswell. Chilli you said you can't shoot nothing over a .22 in Ft. Erie? Do the people that made this retarded law know that a .22 goes a hell of a lot farther then any shotgun will and they ricochet a heck of alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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