smerchly Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Interesting vid .Tommy , there's so much controversy on this and it goes a way back to when they said they could get 100 mpg from a carb. on a car . L.Goldsteins take on the Copenhagen farce is hilariuos to say the least in todays Sun .....a rag yes but they have some good writers . Funny how I came across this .......we were talking about 93 yr. old Phylis Diller & looked up her bio .& found she took part in many many movies & this documentary which goes back to 1996, . The electric cars are coming on strong , the question is are they really as non polluting as a gas car with the costs of using electricity & battery disposal ? this is a very short video & there are several more additionals if interested , but this one shows how big business like GM can squash new ideas to feed their own coffers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightfisher Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdel...ad-this-letter/ If any of your idiot friends still believe in AGW, make them read this letter By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: January 4th, 2010 239 Comments Comment on this article Lord Monckton has written a letter about AGW to Kevin Rudd, offering to give the Aussie premier a private briefing to correct a few misconceptions he may have on the subject. It’s a corker. (You can read it in full at Watts Up With That.) On the “conspiracy theory” that the AGW apparatus is really about creating world “government”. Your speech mentioned my remarks about the proposal for world “government” in the early drafts of what had been intended as a binding Copenhagen Treaty. These proposals were not, as you suggested, a “conspiracy theory” from the “far right” with “zero basis in evidence”. Your staff will find them in paragraphs 36-38 of the main text of Annex 1 to the 15 September draft of the Treaty. The word “government” appears twice at paragraph 38. After much adverse publicity in democratic countries, including Australia, the proposals were reluctantly dropped before Copenhagen. On the lessons we ought to have learned from the Europe The climate ought not to be used as a shoddy pretext for international bureaucratic-centralist dictatorship. We committed Europeans have had more than enough of that already with the unelected but all-powerful Kommissars of the hated EU, who make nine-tenths of our laws by decree (revealingly, they call them “Directives” or “Commission Regulations”). The Kommissars (that is the official German word for them) inflict their dictates upon us regardless of what the elected European or any other democratic Parliament says or wishes. Do we want a worldwide EU? No. On the economic illiteracy of ocean-going knobs like Lord Stern Every economic analysis except that of the now-discredited Lord Stern, with its near-zero discount rate and its absurdly inflated warming rates, comes to the same ineluctable conclusion: adaptation to climate change, in whatever direction, as and if necessary, is orders of magnitude more cost-effective than attempts at mitigation. In a long career in policy analysis in and out of government, I have never seen so cost-ineffective a proposed waste of taxpayers’ money as the trillions which today’s scientifically-illiterate governments propose to spend on attempting – with all the plausibility of King Canute – to stop the tide from coming in. On the crime against humanity that are biofuels Millions are already dying of starvation in the world’s poorest nations because world food prices have doubled in two years. That abrupt, vicious doubling was caused by a sharp drop in world food production, caused in turn by suddenly taking millions of acres of land out of growing food for people who need it, so as to grow biofuels for clunkers that don’t. The scientifically-illiterate, economically-innumerate policies that you advocate – however fashionable you may conceive them to be – are killing people by the million. On the 114 Aussie governmental junketeers who flew to Copenhagen Are you, personally, and your advisers, personally, and your administration’s officials, personally, willing to make the heroically pointless sacrifices that you so insouciantly demand of others in the name of Saving The Planet For Future Generations? I beg leave to think not. At Flag 1 I have attached what I have reason to believe is a generally accurate list of the names and titles of the delegation that you led to Copenhagen to bring back the non-result whose paltriness, pointlessness and futility we have now rigorously demonstrated. There are 114 names on the list. One hundred and fourteen. Enough to fill a mid-sized passenger jet. Half a dozen were all that was really necessary – and perhaps one from each State in Australia. If you and your officials are not willing to tighten your belts when a tempting foreign junket at taxpayers’ expense is in prospect, why, pray, should the taxpayers tighten theirs? and – most damningly of all, I think – on just how little effect the Copenhagen Accord would have on “climate”, even in the impossible event that everyone bothered complying: We determine the warming forestalled over the coming decade by comparing the business-as-usual warming that would occur between now and 2020 if we made no cuts in CO2 emissions with the lesser warming that would follow full compliance with the Copenhagen Accord. Where today’s CO2 concentration is 388 ppmv – Business as usual: ΔT = 5.7 ln(408.0/388) = 0.29 C° – Copenhagen Accord: ΔT = 5.7 ln(406.5/388) = 0.27 C° = “Global warming” forestalled, 2010-2020: 0.02 C° One-fiftieth of a Celsius degree of warming forestalled is all that complete, global compliance with the Copenhagen Accord for an entire decade would achieve. Yet the cost of achieving this result – an outcome so small that our instruments would not be able to measure it – would run into trillions of dollars. Yes, that’s right. If every country in the world went to the vast trouble and expense of implementing every last detail of the Copenhagen Accord, it would put off the rise in global warming over the course of one decade by one fiftieth of a degree. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/03/clim...ing/#more-14778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted January 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Thanks for the additional info Dan > Thanks to the www. we are able to find info . that the corporate newspapers will not print . The latest news about the worlds largest polluter is China . They are also now the worlds largest auto maker by far , increasing their output by a staggering 45% for 09 ,compared to a decrease of 21% for north America production . And , it was stated in the news that Canada will be buying presription drugs from China which will likely shut down the pharma. industries in Canada . It boggles the mind why the U.S. will help turn China into the worlds most powerful country . Imho , it's the powerful corporate billionaires who call the shots now , and their only concern is money & power , and they have no concern for people that choke on their coal factory smoke or die everyday in the mines in China . And they tell us to do the laundry in the night hours ??? We are the wimps if we believe Suzuki Gore & corporate buddies.....and our kids will ultimatley pay the price with a much lower standard of living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I recieved this email today ....surprised me that she was interested in this G.W. stuff..... http://www.kusi.com/home/78477082.html?video=pop&t=a Although there doesn't appear to be much interest for or against this thread , I believe a majority agrees this is a hoax . Only when the energy costs begin to soar making driving and keeping warm or cool , will the believers start making some noise........but it will be entrenched in to world law & rich nations like Canada will be back in the shipping business.......like shipping billions of our tax dollars to other so called clean countries . We are not scientists & even they cannot agree , or some are being paid off to tow the corporate line .......The above video is just a straight forward one for the average "unscientific" person to digest , we really don't know the truth for sure , but all you need to do is go back a few years & consider the "Enron" & other corporate scams that ruined so many lives......they do not have a conscience and that's why they "invented" this grandmother of all scams ....so far ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spottedGARRR Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 I recieved this email today ....surprised me that she was interested in this G.W. stuff..... http://www.kusi.com/home/78477082.html?video=pop&t=a Although there doesn't appear to be much interest for or against this thread , I believe a majority agrees this is a hoax . Only when the energy costs begin to soar making driving and keeping warm or cool , will the believers start making some noise........but it will be entrenched in to world law & rich nations like Canada will be back in the shipping business.......like shipping billions of our tax dollars to other so called clean countries . We are not scientists & even they cannot agree , or some are being paid off to tow the corporate line .......The above video is just a straight forward one for the average "unscientific" person to digest , we really don't know the truth for sure , but all you need to do is go back a few years & consider the "Enron" & other corporate scams that ruined so many lives......they do not have a conscience and that's why they "invented" this grandmother of all scams ....so far ! great video smerch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted January 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Well , finally ! A very well known authority has spoken out on global warning . Maybe we should take his advice and cripple the USA . I will be great to see the world "cleansed" & live without oil and all of its nastiness . WTG , Mr. BL.......... http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2010/01/...2660851-ap.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammercarp Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Well , finally ! A very well known authority has spoken out on global warning . Maybe we should take his advice and cripple the USA . I will be great to see the world "cleansed" & live without oil and all of its nastiness . WTG , Mr. BL.......... http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2010/01/...2660851-ap.html Why didn't he just ask his one billion fellow muslims to stop drivng cars, buying manufactured goods, stop selling oil, etc... That would have a real impact very quickly. I am sure they are very eager to go backwards a thousand years. NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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