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This is fishing related as well as environmental ....heard just now on radio CKTB  talk show , "they" are going to double the minimum 5% ethanol to 10% . It's well known the gas mileage drops with ethanol , and it has caused damage to our boat motors & lines ,etc. But we are going to save the world you know !  It is also known that our Lib.government contributes millions of pesos to the ethanol lords & they , of course,  help them out at election time . We taxpayers are so generous.....

So , if we need to fill up more often buy burning  ethanol , are we really saving the planet ? The more we burn the more $$$ they get in gas taxes . I'm not sure about the U.S. gas ethanol rate , but I will be looking to find out .....or using non eth. gas ,  if it's still legal ....

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You're right Smerch, it is part of the Liberal's grand "double down" plan on wasteful, non-effective, non-productive and non-sensical feel good programs that warm the hearts of Liberal voters. Fuel that comes from nice clean fields of corn instead of nasty oil sands! Guess they must think that all the farm equipment used to cultivate the land, plant the seed, fertilize, the fertilizer itself, harvest crop, transport to ethanol plant, energy to produce the ethanol, transport to market , is all powered by rainbows and sunshine! Not to mention the negative affect on fuel efficiency and the cost of all the damage being done to gas powered vehicles and equipment. Plus you can eat corn but not oil! Just say'n.

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I think their secret agenda is to push the electric vehicles (EV) . They are fine for the big cities where one can navigate quicker by bicycle but have a roof over your head .  Good points about land use , fertilizers , etc.,  and I'm sure those corn fields could be used to feed the starving people on this planet ,rather than burn it in our gas tanks .  I've read some info about hydrogen as a fuel  alternative that looks good but may be too pricey now.....

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 Although this doesn't seem to be an issue here or with many Canadians , it's big on the agenda with our neighbours south of the border . It IS a political hot potato there and I am concerned with the ENVIRONMENTAL aspects to this . I keep in touch with Gas Buddy for local gas prices and sometimes chime in to the news related to vehicles  and fuel prices etc.   There is much concern on the American side , and as usual much of this ethanol $$$ is lining the pockets of people who know nothing about farming .  I quote one of many who has more concerns about the environment than any government official , and that applies to us as well ...  I agree we should at least have the option at the pumps . I'm sure most of us would select " no eth "

 

Here in corn country — where I live and have close relatives who grow corn and soybeans — I have seen firsthand the damage done by the ethanol subsidies.

Fields that should not have “row crops” growing on them because of erosion problems have been planted with corn. Some results: streams filling with silt; wind-blown erosion; destruction of native grasses, hedges, flowers and shrubs; less food, cover and nesting habitat for native birds, small mammals, butterflies, bees and other beneficial insects.

Don’t think for one second I am some tree-hugging environmentalist. I am not. But I have eyes and can see the damage done to natural areas by putting marginal farm land into production to pick up the money that comes from demand for corn to make ethanol. I see the huge amounts of water sucked out of the ground to grow that corn and make it into ethanol at the ethanol facilities.

Also: Several years ago a friend of mine told me about a vacation he took. He drove through the South and found a gas station that sold pure gasoline. His car’s gas tank was nearly empty. He filled it with the pure gasoline and checked his mileage. He got almost three miles a gallon more burning pure gasoline than he got using gasoline with a 10 percent ethanol blend. Imagine how many billions of dollars Americans could save using pure gasoline! Imagine how much closer car fleets would come to meeting government mileage requirements!

If people want to burn ethanol in their cars, should be allowed to do that. People who want to burn pure gasoline, they also should be allowed to do that. The demand for ethanol should be determined by what the American motoring public wants to buy.

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On December 5, 2017 at 5:23 PM, smerchly said:

I think their secret agenda is to push the electric vehicles (EV) . They are fine for the big cities where one can navigate quicker by bicycle but have a roof over your head .  Good points about land use , fertilizers , etc.,  and I'm sure those corn fields could be used to feed the starving people on this planet ,rather than burn it in our gas tanks .  I've read some info about hydrogen as a fuel  alternative that looks good but may be too pricey now.....

And how long will it take them to develop an electric vehicle capable of towing my 16 ft boat??

and will that vehicle run out of charge before I make it to my launching point??

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On ‎12‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 9:01 AM, Chrisb said:

If Tesla can make an electric semi I'm sure they can make an electric tow car.

Well, maybe Tesla can make it.

BUT, will I be able to AFFORD it on my pension?  Tesla is NOT a low-priced vehicle manufacturer!

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When they produce them like candy , they should be cheaper than a gas car . They don't need gas tanks , engine coolants , pollution devices , cat.converters , ect .etc.  Good for the cities like T.O. that are clogged solid with vehicles .....

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