Snags Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 St. Catharines Substandard Article Quote Hiawatha First Nation has established a checkpoint station to stop non-permanent residents from entering the area or travelling through it. Cottagers and other seasonal residents with property at Hiawatha, or those who must travel through the reserve to access their property, are not being allowed access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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verado Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I can see both sides of the argument with the mayors of these cottage country towns and villages telling the cottage people to stay home. On the other side, my buddy has a beautiful cottage on north Lake Muskoka near Port Carling. He pays over $16000.00 a year in property taxes. For this he gets absolutely nothing, no water, no sewer, no garbage pick-up, no road plowing or maintenance, no mail no nothing. Every service he has to pay additionally for. Because of his and other cottage owners huge taxes, villages like Port Carling have beautiful hospitals, arenas, community centres and other facilities. He would like to go up for a few days to do some spring clean-up. He could do so without attending any grocery stores, gas stations etc. and totally resents being told "stay home, we don't want you" but continue paying your giant tax bill. I agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Insane taxation , government greed makes it impossible for us to keep our parents cottage . You need to have a 7 figure income to have a nice cottage now . It cost enough now to pitch a tent at a park . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hooksets Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Couldn’t this be considered a place of residency? I have a cottage out that way as well(Huntsville area). Since I’m able to work remotely, I was thinking of taking the family up there for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verado Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 I don't see why not. My buddy's son lives and works in downtown Toronto. He is fortunate that his job can be done completely from home. However, he lives in a giant highrise and stepping outside means running the gauntlet of narrow corridors and elevators. He plans on going to the cottage for the next several months and working from there. How can this not be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwl1 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Do any of you guys collect any mail..get utility bills up there ect....dont know how it works now..but when they started to implement property taxes and hydro bill when I had my trailer in Madoc..it was a year round park back then I could use 12 months a year...I was sent registration to vote up there...so I figure at that time if I could cast a vote in the region it made me a resident up there as well...so you just may have the right if you "live there"....as opposed to a seasonal trailer park setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hooksets Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jwl1 said: Do any of you guys collect any mail..get utility bills up there ect....dont know how it works now..but when they started to implement property taxes and hydro bill when I had my trailer in Madoc..it was a year round park back then I could use 12 months a year...I was sent registration to vote up there...so I figure at that time if I could cast a vote in the region it made me a resident up there as well...so you just may have the right if you "live there"....as opposed to a seasonal trailer park setting Our bills and other mail get forwarded to our home here in the city. However, I still get registration to vote up there so I would think we would be considered residents of that town. I’m going to cross that bridge when it’s closer to nicer weather. I usually don’t start going up there until May long weekend so hopefully we will have more answers by then. Regardless I think I’ll be making the trip up there even if things don’t change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwl1 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Most of us with half a brain in our heads as out door sportsmen and women are sensible toward the implications of a large number of people swarming an area and using up resources on mass...entering the public on mass ect...or a traffic jam volume of people evacuating to "cottage country" and the impact that would have all over the 400 series hwys...but I see a few people who are stating the fact that you can go...without using any amenity or even mingling with anyone...I feel the same way in the debate on doing a brookie mission....knowing I will be heading out totally self sufficient...got everything I can possibly need to use and bring right here at home....also would not be stopping anywhere ...no timmies...no store...and that's because there aren't any remotely near the fishing hole...lol...and most of all..no people...haha...definitely not 5...lol.....tough one...I feel the same way as some of you guys.....and totally not because I feel I have any sort entitlement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraHotel83 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Food for thought... Township of Muskoka Lakes (includes Port Carling) has a population of approx 7K and has 8 employees on the sunshine list making over 100K per year. They can most likely thank the "cottagers" taxes for those gracious salaries. If you own a home and are going to isolate with your family there it shouldn't be a problem. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 The main excuse I have heard used the hospital system. The hospitals in cottage country are not equipped to volume of people if the cottagers started getting sick. That being said it wouldn't stop me from moving up there for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chrisb said: if the cottagers started getting sick. Wow ... If I "self isoed" for 2 weeks ...or a month here at home I think I could proclaim I am c-19 free ......same thing with the people who have live near "my" cottage ..... The chances of spreading c-19 would be about zero ? "IF" I had a heart attack at the cottage I would probably end up at a larger hospital ....like Kingston . That's what happened to my bro in law while at our trailer park in Deseronto . The ambulance took him to Napanee , then to Kingston where he had an angioplasty ( stent) I think the Muskoka would miss the $$$ the cottagers , etc. bring into their area .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Quote I think the Muskoka would miss the $$$ the cottagers , etc. bring into their area .... As are all the other local businesses everywhere. Think about Niagara Falls with everything, including the Casino, shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhoss Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Ok, gonna stir the pot on this one. See the attached article from the Standard earlier this week. Yes this pertains to dual U.S. and Canadian citizens, but read point 3 about going to your seasonal residence (pasted below). But I thought seasonal cottagers weren’t allowed to go to their lakefront properties? Again, not exactly. While places like Fort Erie and Port Colborne have put out statements asking their seasonal residents not to come ride out the pandemic at their cottages, we can’t actually stop them from doing so. Whether Canadian or dual-citizen, they own their properties legally, they pay taxes on them, and if they want to go to them, they can do so. Travelling to a cottage does not violate any of the ongoing state of emergency orders, nor does it contravene the Quarantine Act. So if you own it there is no legal reason you can not go to your residence. You pay taxes on it. There is no shelter in place order and given the recent trends on this virus one is not likely coming. So play safe, keep your 6 foot (actually it is 2 meters) distance and use some common seance. If the cops want to look at it differently take your ticket and ask them what they want in their coffee when you take it to court... Just my 2 cents. https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/news-story/9954011-why-am-i-still-seeing-so-many-cars-with-american-plates-driving-across-niagara-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwl1 Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 The issue is the "weekend warrior" thing like happens in the summer..being taken over by out of towners who leave thier trail behind with no regard....and with so many people off work.. the potential of simply way too many people at once going somewhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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