Surf and Turf Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 That was totally avoidable and certainly not an accident. They should send him a bill for the cost of the rescue. Instead of no-trespassing signs post a sign that if you need to be rescued you will be responsible for the cost. I bet if that guy new he would be responsible for an expensive rescue he would have jumped off that rock before it was too late. 35+ years ago we used to go down to the whirlpool at night take a case of beer, make a fire, fish and hunt for lures until the wee hours of the morning half in the bag and don't ever recall hearing about anyone needing to be rescued. Seen people slip on the rocks and get a bit of a soaker many times, those rocks are a slick when the water goes down and I have taken a few tumbles myself on them. Kodiaks with the soles worn smooth don't grip slimy rocks well! There was a guy a couple years younger than me at high school that went scuba diving there to get lures, he didn't make it out alive. NiagaraRiverFisher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 I completely agree. Post signs that say you are responsible for the cost if you require a rescue. People will think twice about bad decisions if it's going to cost them. You can't put up no trespassing signs down there... that's ridiculous NiagaraRiverFisher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbocco Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 If you look back in time at any news releases, anyone requiring rescue from the water gets charged with no trespassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Yes charged with trespassing but not charged with the cost of the rescue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelshady Posted November 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 This is not looking good guys for fishing from shore the Niagara on the Canadian side....They will start closing the entire river from fishing piece by piece... tmate and smerchly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Are most of the rescues and deaths people from other areas ? Most of our locals know the river well and fish safely . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steellee Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 14 hours ago, steelshady said: This is not looking good guys for fishing from shore the Niagara on the Canadian side....They will start closing the entire river from fishing piece by piece... Seems like it... funny the US side has great trails almost the whole stretch of river and encourages angling right off their powerhouse. Than again they probably dont have Toronto day trippers needing rescues/recoveries a few times a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba14 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 That would be my guess as well steelee. For once it isn't the litter bugs making us lose a fishing area but the out of towners who don't adhere to the warning signs about entering the river. Either way, the fishermen lose... NiagaraRiverFisher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 I like to blame people from Mississauga and Brampton first... too much traffic in Toronto to get anywhere toaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snags Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 The end of the day, the issue is everyone needing some social media validation, so they seek out taking great selfies with no knowledge of the area. Look at last year when the trails around Morningstar Mill were shutdown, all because of stupidity and not thinking. But we have been trained to stop thinking with how everything needs a sign, or terms and conditions and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf and Turf Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Unfortunately it's not always "out of towners" that lack common sense. Years ago we use to fish off the deck of the power plant on the lower. One day some idiots decided to walk inside of the plant and take the elevator up rather than walk up the access road. That was the end of that. We used to fish below the dam at Port Dalhousie there was a young local guy that started wading out probably 4 feet from shore up to his knees in hip boots. Once he drowned doing it they really cracked down there too. We used to walk down the Maid of the Mist access road and fish the whole area without being hassled, I don't imagine that would go over well now. All you need is one or two people to steal, damage, litter, hurt themselves and sue to ruin it for everyone else. smerchly and dave524 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 I have fished all those places Surf , and I totally agree . I had a lot of fun catching the silvers at the hydro plant in the the spring. We used to fish below the dam at Lock 1 at the canal and always caught a good variety of fish ....and smelts . All closed to fishing now . We still have the morons who screw it up for the rest of us (one bad apple....) ,and of course the numb nuts who leave their garbage . I tossed a huge ball of line in the garbage at Port Dal. yesterday . Today I was at Welland & it's usually clean at the fishing spots . Surf and Turf and Fish Farmer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbocco Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Soon fishing will only be for boaters and kayakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplummer Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 8:18 PM, steelshady said: Trails are open but I guess you are not allowed to go down to the water, Cripps to ledge is closed since I don't think they know that trail lol.....The police did not kick me out, just two park employees equipped with a whistle and a radio lol...I am sure if I did not leave, they would call the park police. And all they can do is hold you until the real cops come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf and Turf Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Well, I got the following scoop on the weekend. The trespassing charges are at the discretion of the police. Basically if you are doing something that they deem as stupid, that puts yourself, or others at risk you will be charged with trespassing. If the fire department has to come out to rescue you and they and the police decide it was because you did something that common sense could have avoided, or you went somewhere you shouldn't have been, you will also receive a bill for the cost of the rescue which can easily run into the thousands of dollars. toaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Right on Surf and Turf. Can I ask where you got that information and where are the places you shouldn't be? I contacted the niagara parks a few weeks ago and haven't heard anything back. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf and Turf Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Radio said: Right on Surf and Turf. Can I ask where you got that information and where are the places you shouldn't be? I contacted the niagara parks a few weeks ago and haven't heard anything back. Thanks! Direct from police and fire. Basically if you are off trail and doing something that your average person would know better than to do. If you are trying to access a fishing spot that you think that most wouldn't have the balls to try to reach, you might want to give it a second thought. Try to scale a cliff rather than take the trail like everyone else and fall, it's likely going to cost you. Wade out to a rock so you can extend your cast by 20 feet or get that perfect drift, then you're gambling your own life and money. If you ask for a rule book they will tell you to stay on the trails, and definitely out of the water. Bubba14 and smerchly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Thanks Surf! So what I am getting out of this is we can fish the glen, just don't be an idiot or take any chances or it will cost you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf and Turf Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Radio said: Thanks Surf! So what I am getting out of this is we can fish the glen, just don't be an idiot or take any chances or it will cost you... Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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