Hey right on man thanks for all the info, I’m gona be hunting private land in copetown for deer and turkey. I appreciate all the info. I think I’m gona go with spypoint on a boxing day sale. They have a good cam, cheap 12v external battery package and 2 year warranty will give me two seasons if it poops out after that I’ll have got my moneys worth . I have an infinite amount of white tail questions whenever it gets closer maybe ill open up a thread and pick your guys’ brains