hammercarp Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I get both your points Dan. Don't we have agreements with the US on the Great Lakes? I know Ontario has an agreement with the federal gov't on the great lakes. http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/greatlakes/default....mp;n=D11109CB-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammercarp Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 There is also this one. http://www.ijc.org/en/home/main_accueil.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammercarp Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Here's another for what it's worth. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/27...-Carp.html?_r=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Andrews Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I can't tell ya except they'll fight these fish to the end but they won't sever the vein that the money flows through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammercarp Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Latest News FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 10-OPA010 Chicago (Feb. 3, 2010) – U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, on behalf of the Asian Carp Regional Coordinating Committee, will hold a meeting in Chicago on Feb. 12 to discuss plans and get recommendations on Asian carp control efforts. The committee will answer questions and listen to comments from the public. A second meeting will be scheduled in the near future elsewhere in the Great Lakes basin. Who: Senior representatives from U.S. Environmental Protection Agency; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service; U.S. Army Corps of Engineers; U.S. Coast Guard; State of Illinois and other Great Lakes states; City of Chicago; Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago; White House Council on Environmental Quality; and Scientific experts When: 3:00 – 6:00 p.m., Friday, Feb. 12 Where: Room 331 Metcalfe Federal Building 77 W. Jackson Blvd., Chicago, Ill. The meeting also will be available via live web stream at: http://www.epa.gov/greatlakes/live. Those who cannot attend the meeting in person can submit questions on the Web site. When available, the framework and a transcript of the meeting will be posted on http://www.asiancarp.org/regionalcoordination. Comments on the framework may also be submitted online at the above Web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spottedGARRR Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I was at an Asian live fish market over the weekend in Mississauga and seen heads of big head carp for sale. no live ones tho, atleast on display that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schertzing Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Coming to your local fish market,.....for cheap! I seen a news report on these carp and it seems that they are actually good eating. In all parts of the world carp is a normal fish to eat. I wouldn't be suprised if we did see these fish sold for food if they invade that great lakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammercarp Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Apparently Obama is now on our side and needs our help. http://www.canada.com/technology/looks+hel...4249/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightfisher Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 The two countries should be working together. Just thinking....wonder if there was a way for the scientists to come up with something to make the fish sterile, without affecting the other fish in the system. I would think they should be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik.T. Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Well if they got past the barriers and if a miracle happens where they decide to quarantine lake michigan how the **** are they gonna keep them from entering the other lakes? Are they gonna put in a fishway like the one in cootes paradise? I'm betting the U.S. government will no do so in favor of the shipping business and later they will regret their decision but of course it will be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron4blues Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Regrettably, it will probably come down to a situation where the only alternative will be massive doses of rotenone or an "oh well they're here, lets live with them" approach. I'd hate to see that happen, and I certainly wouldn't endorse a plan that included poison, but these fish are scary critters. I've seen similar threads on novascotiafishing.com where the discussion has revolved around the spread of chain pickerel and smallmouth bass into trout and salmon watersheds. It is a contentious issue to be sure, but its an issue that must be dealt with now, not when the only choices are poison or let em be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Andrews Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Just received this by our zone J reps at the OFAH There is a petition to sign http://stopasiancarp.com/ although it looks like you need a zip code. Prolly only want to hear from Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron4blues Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 A proactive approach is going to be needed....like stocking more predators. I'm sure muskies will love these carp. There's something to be said for that. But there will be opposition to it as well. I've seen discussions on other forums where the idea of stocking tiger trout to deal with invasives has come up. The down-side is that once the crisis has passed what do you do with the predators you've introduced? And don't forget that those predators aren't doing discriminate: they'll go after anything they can catch. I'm not saying don't do it; rather, I'm saying that not everyone would agree that more predators is the way to go. Add to that the fact that these Asian carp appear to grow quickly and to very large sizes. Even a big musky will likely pass on the larger prey in favor of something more "bite-size." It might be one method, but it will take a multi-faceted approach to deal with this I'm afraid. As expensive as it might be, perhaps electro-seining would be the safest and most effective approach. Shock them all and sort them out. Maybe they can develop an electrical barrier for the locks in Chicago that would stop migration. But in the meantime, those locks have to be closed until they come up with something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron4blues Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I've joked about freshwater sharks, but we know that is ridiculous. Actually, freshwater sharks aren't as far-fetched as you might think. And they don't reproduce in fresh water either: Fresh Water Sharks Bull Sharks apparently can survive quite well in fresh water. They can get quite big too: Nine foot bull shark Of course, I doubt people would be very keen on that idea either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I believe this method will eradicate those carp ! It might be the only SURE way , but it has other consequences as well ....... this lake's water level is a tad low and this fish (looks like an asian carp) looks like it has been smoked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spottedGARRR Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06...way-system.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEdge Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Actually, freshwater sharks aren't as far-fetched as you might think. And they don't reproduce in fresh water either:Fresh Water Sharks Bull Sharks apparently can survive quite well in fresh water. They can get quite big too: Nine foot bull shark Of course, I doubt people would be very keen on that idea either! It's been proven in Australia, that bull sharks can be capable of reproducing in fresh water. But a bull shark born in fresh water can never survive in brackish or salt water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik.T. Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 I read in some book of a lake in oceania on a mountain that contains a bunch of saltwater fish and sharks but the lake is freshwater. Apparently the lake lost the salt in the water after being isolated from the ocean and the fish adapted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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