Bryan Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Government decided to Protect 12 Mile Creek native spieces... $22,850 was given to a group to help protect plants, fish, and wildlife. http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2014/02/27/grant-given-to-protect-twelve-mile-creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigz Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Nice to see. There is nowhere near enough of this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rile Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Thats good news, the body of water really has some potential and they doing nothing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpics Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 seems like a good chunk of money so hopefully they can do quite a bit of planting with it. As long as the nursery they buy from doesn't see it as a way to get rich... All too often the prices get inflated..... With volunteer planters and a thrifty buyer the money will go along way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo1685 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 With Trout Unlimited as the recipient of the money I can garuntee that they will have numerous volunteers ! More often than not , when dealing with groups that buy in bulk for planting, nurseries offer discounts. This money should get alot of plants planted. Hopefully they do some before and after shots of places they planted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomie Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Is there trout in that river? I played all around there as a kid but I've never fished it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry b Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yes,I don't think there's lots but they're in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo1685 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 The very upper still does ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ketchican Kid Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Tis an area that has potential with stocking and rehabilitation. What exists now is extremely fragile and must be protected with common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo1685 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 The only reason I know they are there is because I did rehabilitation work on the 12 with the NPCA last summer and saw 2 sitting in a pool. I would never fish for them, or even suggest fishing for them. To find the spots with them would take forever and a day, and even then I would never want to harm all the work that's been out into the creek. In fact, I helped with a Temperature Study that was done this past summer on 12 to see if the temps are cooling down with the rehabilitation work that has been done. Hopefully the report gets finished and shows that all the hard work these groups do and the time they spend is worth it and making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktheperchman Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Have they done anything about the beavers in there? Last time I was down there they had stripped one side of a hill of small trees to make their lodge in the side of the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Some people have suggested stocking the 12 Mile (below the Decew dam to Port Dal. ) with walleye or trout , but as long as they keep dropping the water levels drastically each summer , spawning beds could be drained completely . If water levels were maintained , the 12 Mile could be a great sports fishery . It is mainly a bass and pike spot now ......and the beavers have dropped a lot of trees in prime fishing spots ,making them unfishable now. The upper 12 , to Effingham is mostly private land ,and as mentioned , could be easily "fished out" quickly with hordes of anglers looking for specks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchie Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Eat a Beaver save a tree i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getroutofhere Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I don't think posting on the internet is the greatest idea for preservation. Yes there are trout in that system but good luck getting them. I think the average is one 6 inch trout for every 100 ticks you find on yourself. Truth is there are systems that actually hold trout that are worth while to fish you just need to put the work in to find them. Just not along the 12 as other members said allot is private land and the owners call the police if they see you there. Most of them are not "Fisher friendly" try some tribs off erie where if you catch one and keep it it won't affect the system dramatically. Plus there's more chub than anything in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfisher Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 It could be a great fishery. They could turn it into a catch and release fishery like the upper Grand. Many trout streams in the states also have single barbless hook rules that have resulted in outstanding fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfisher Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I don't think walleye and browns could cohabitate. Walleye are voracious predators that would wipe out the trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 The MNR has made it abundantly clear that they are not interested in stocking walleye above the dam in Port D. Nor would any stocking of browns or bows be beneficial to any fragile native species that still manage to exist in the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getroutofhere Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well take a look at front page standard today... Hydro dam a go for the 12.. Bye bye fishies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snags Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Walleye would be no good. That system is too polluted to make them good eating. They should be there already as well ... lake gibson ... theyre caught on occaison. the lack if decent fishable spots ... would be a waste. how will this kill the fishies and the 12? We may lose some spots ... but it is already signed no tresspassing around wellandvale .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpics Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 The MNR wont stock Walleye where they can't reproduce on their own or where they will compete with other species. We tried to get permission to stock walleye in Binbrook but Ann Yagi didn't want anything to do with that. Her idea was to get the walleye to naturally reproduce more in the welland river by increasing the summer flows (by drawing Binbrook down further). The walleye don't migrate that far up anyways so I think shes dreaming..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 The MNR wont stock Walleye where they can't reproduce on their own or where they will compete with other species. We tried to get permission to stock walleye in Binbrook but Ann Yagi didn't want anything to do with that. Her idea was to get the walleye to naturally reproduce more in the welland river by increasing the summer flows (by drawing Binbrook down further). The walleye don't migrate that far up anyways so I think shes dreaming..... There were a few projects, a few years back , on the Welland to build spawning habitat to further enhance stocking efforts on the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo1685 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 They used to stock them down at the Port Davidson Weir. I know that there's a paper by Anne Yagi on Google that's all about fish they've stocked and monitored in the Welland River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Walleye are in the 12 Mile creek . Anglers don't target them but there are probably spots where they like to be like the rapids below the Decew Gen. plants . They were plentiful there in the 50's & 60's but the spots are now fenced . One of our guys (Joey) caught a 22" eye .in the creek 2 yrs.ago while bass fishing. Gibson has eyes , so maybe some small ones can survive the drop through the turbines into the 12 . , or some are still there from days past & still able to reproduce . I know there are spots with nice pebbly bottoms & rocks & fallen trees ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpics Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I was at a meeting where they showed us where the walleye are in the welland river. They don't go past a certain point even with high water..not sure why... If the MNR had more funds I bet stocking would be on the table for more areas. Even a put and take fishery is better than nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpics Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I would check the guide for eating sportfish before consuming from the Welland river..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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