Snags Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Doubtful that anyone reads this or cares ... But down there this morning and there was a sign on the "fencing" that has indicated there is a website for feedback. https://portpiers.com/ It is run by the city of St Catharines. There is some of the photos of the "side scans" done on the piers to show the deterioration that has occurred. Some interesting information definitely available on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Me thinks they over estimated the costs to fix to deter spending the money & will eventually break them up into a rock berm . On the lake side of both piers the water is shallow with a sand bottom . the harbour is approx.15' deep average which would allow the piers to sink on that side . If they fix the harbour side only , the costs would be much less . I'm no engineer , but some , like scientists can be "persuaded" to doctor up their estimates . ....and yep , I'm a "man made" global warming denier ....maybe a little anti - estab. as well .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snags Posted October 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, I'm_A_Drifter said: How much of a safety risk is there for foot traffic, really? All you need is someone to fell because things are uneven and "not safe". At the same time, if some of the areas are as unstable as some of the side scans show ... a heavy storm could easily shift things enough that a little weight on a spot and things could tip. Chances of it happening? Nil to rare. If it did happen? Lawyers would be very quick to get rich. Plenty of areas are fenced off because of the threat of being sued should someone fail to be responsible for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lund-SS Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 I've used my side scan along the piers coming in from salmon fishing . You can really see what bad shape they are in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Article by Doug Herod today .....not putting a lot of hope the piers will be walked on again . I was there today checking out the place , started raining so went to get a coffee at Timmies ....GONE ! No more coffee's at Port Dal-loosie . http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2017/11/01/herod-st-catharines-starts-voyage-into-choppy-waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Sad situation that. If I'm not mistaken, Hamilton's new waterfront has been paid for by all three levels of government. It's become a focal point for citizens. Walkers, wheelers, rollerbladers, dogwalkers, joggers, bikers, etc. I can't imagine our city without it now. As for the Dalhousie pier, it would be a sad little harbour without it, and not just for fisherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 The piers and lighthouses have been good for attracting people such as you mentioned Mike . With the construction planned for the condo's etc. I believe they want to make Port another N.O.T.L. which caters to the "well to do" .....The piers would still be a great place to walk ,..... and fish . The biggest problem will be traffic ....only one way in or out . I can see a new road bridge going across the harbour to Lighthouse Rd. or one across the bay to J.C. Park to Ontario St. for the increase in condo dwellers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfish Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 On 27/10/2017 at 0:48 PM, smerchly said: Me thinks they over estimated the costs to fix to deter spending the money & will eventually break them up into a rock berm . On the lake side of both piers the water is shallow with a sand bottom . the harbour is approx.15' deep average which would allow the piers to sink on that side . If they fix the harbour side only , the costs would be much less . I'm no engineer , but some , like scientists can be "persuaded" to doctor up their estimates . ....and yep , I'm a "man made" global warming denier ....maybe a little anti - estab. as well .... I think you and I just might get along!lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 21 hours ago, Mike Pike said: Sad situation that. If I'm not mistaken, Hamilton's new waterfront has been paid for by all three levels of government. It's become a focal point for citizens. Walkers, wheelers, rollerbladers, dogwalkers, joggers, bikers, etc. I can't imagine our city without it now. As for the Dalhousie pier, it would be a sad little harbour without it, and not just for fisherman. That, the Beacon marina, Port marina, waterfront trail, etc, etc, were all part of a major waterfront construction and restoration program in the mid 90's along the L Ontario shoreline. I worked one subcontract on the trail in Mississauga, and another doing spawning bed and structure enhancements in Hammy hrbr. Over time, just about every waterfront structure needs a major overhaul and rebuild. Pt Maitland pier got such a rebuild about 20 years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 WELL ...low & behold .....While visiting (snooping) at Port Dal. today , I spotted a new sign at the old Timmies , & it read " Homestead ...opening soon " Yahoo ! And they have bigger and better doughnuts and coffee !! They have just recently opened a new Homestead on Hartzel Rd. ........ https://www.niagarathisweek.com/news-story/7470976-doughnuts-and-coffee-reunited-at-homestead-donuts-bakery/ They have been around a long time but shut down their shops here & just supplied businesses like hotels with doughnuts ...good to see them back ....and I'll give them all my business . The closest Timmies at Port is on Lakeshore Rd., but they are a drive through....not my cup of coffee ....I'm not that old YET ! Wasn't fishing ....just doing a snoop.....got this shot of the inner lighthouse as the sun was in the perfect spot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundtastic Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 We had some goodies from the Hartzel Rd store last week. Yes they make the frozen and re-heated turds from Tim Hortons look like goose droppings. If this is the case I will have to do some ice fishing in the North Port and grab some goodies on the way out. MINT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lundtastic said: We had some goodies from the Hartzel Rd store last week. Yes they make the frozen and re-heated turds from Tim Hortons look like goose droppings. If this is the case I will have to do some ice fishing in the North Port and grab some goodies on the way out. MINT. Are the goodies you are speaking come from the new Homestead on Hartzel ( corner at Battersea) , or the Timmies south of there ? I will have to visit the Homestead there and check out their menu .....and coffee ..... Better to make a report on experience rather than a newspaper add ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 If I read understood you correctly, Smerch, the Timmies at the Port has closed??? What's up with that? Timmies never close! ( Or did I misunderstand ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundtastic Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 hours ago, smerchly said: Are the goodies you are speaking come from the new Homestead on Hartzel ( corner at Battersea) , or the Timmies south of there ? I will have to visit the Homestead there and check out their menu .....and coffee ..... Better to make a report on experience rather than a newspaper add ..... Yes the new Homestead on Hartzel. I had a cherry crunch.......just as good as the the shop in the falls(Victoria Ave soup place). Maybe better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, Mike Pike said: If I read understood you correctly, Smerch, the Timmies at the Port has closed??? What's up with that? Timmies never close! ( Or did I misunderstand ). Timmies closed up very abruptly at Port Dalhousie Mike , they were always busy with plenty of seats plus an outside patio .....but no drive through ! I was hoping another coffee shop would take it over but didn't expect it to happen so soon . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Well, you just answered my next question which was why did it closed. Timmies NEVER close. But of course, they all have drive thrus now. Too bad. Nice and handy to go get a hot coffee on those cold winter days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Google Maps has already removed timmies location at Port , & I see homestead doughnuts is on the map at Hartzel Rd. NOW HEAR THIS .....friends , relatives and family ......NO TIM GIFT CARDS anymore ......but I'll take the cash ..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snags Posted December 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Homestead's donuts are much better (and bigger) but I was not a fan of their coffee when I grabbed one. That Port Tims was a weak location when you consider a lack of drive through, a lack of parking, a lack of seating inside, and the very limited hours (usually closed by 9PM). Combine that with rent (I would assume Port D is higher than most of Southern Ontario). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Coffee has to be fresh or it gets bitter quickly . I imagine a lot of coffee is dumped down the drain at coffee shops .There seemed to be ample parking there for the no of seats & many customers were locals who walked there . I would park down the lane way most times. Bottom line is profits were too small . About drive throughs.....We have cars that can shut off the engine at stop lights automatically ....to save gas & stop polluting the world , but we allow vehicles of all sizes to burn gas for 10 -15 minutes to buy a coffee . ....just one of many reasons I pay no attention to the Al gores & Suzuki's pushing their $$$$$$$$$ fake agendas. It was nice going inside Timmies at Port after getting cold bones while ice fishing , grabbing a hot bowl of chili & coffee ......(double chocolate doughnut) on the side ...... I hope to do the same this year at the new coffee shop there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredfisher Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 easy on the double chocolates Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genec Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Smerch, that is a really neat photo of the lighthouse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiagaraRiverFisher Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 heard this today on 610 am , yay ! http://www.iheartradio.ca/610cktb/news/local/federal-government-kicks-in-cash-for-port-dalhousie-piers-in-federal-budget-1.3651616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I heard about it on the radio today , but can't find anything in the newspapers yet . They have big plans to rebuild the old Lincoln Fabrics building ( 9 stories) for condos & business , tear down & rebuild the Legion (condos) and looking to replace the Pier 61 restaurant with... another condo ? Then there's the other BIG condo-business tower going in near the carousel . Also more money coming for the harbour front for boat users . So we need the piers open again for all the new people living in those condos to enjoy . Good business sense . Nice to see it happen ! Now, let's manage the lake levels better , if they can ..... Thanks NRF ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightfisher Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Of course it's pretty much a give when all the condos are in, fishing in that area will be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler0420 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 if You can walk on them then I can’t see them saying no fishing. That’s bs. Their piers. Fish, bike, walk let’s all work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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