spikeattolah Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Anyone know if the Salmon are still in here? I want to take the kids for a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 As of last week , no water flow there , just puddles , don't think they will get to the bridge this year unless a lot of rain falls & flows over Balls Falls . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snags Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I was looking around yesterday ... no sign of salmon or smell of salmon, so either they are in the deeper pools, they have not made it, or the snaggers are keeping the fish and not tossing them in the bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanl Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Salmon are in the harbour but don't have enough water to run up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfish Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I was walking around there today for a look. I saw 4 salmon swimming around below the bridge. No idea how they got up there with as low as the water is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelshady Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Water is up a bit and there are more boots around, should get the last push of fish with the rain tomorrow if they can still swim, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deetch Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Can someone explain to me the thrill of catching Salmon at Baileys Bridge? Other than snagging for Roe, what's the interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonman Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Legally, you aren't allowed to fish at the bridge right now. It is closed until trout opener next Spring starting on Sept. 30th. Tightlines Salmonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerchly Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, deetch said: Can someone explain to me the thrill of catching Salmon at Baileys Bridge? Other than snagging for Roe, what's the interest? As Cliff said last year , some nice pictures to be had there . Using a polarized filter will help get rid of reflections to capture those spawning/dying salmon . I'm surprised they made it that far this year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfish Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 8 hours ago, salmonman said: Legally, you aren't allowed to fish at the bridge right now. It is closed until trout opener next Spring starting on Sept. 30th. Tightlines Salmonman Actually its not closed to fishing there. You can fish for other species just not salmon or trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanl Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 If the waters right, they get a good run of suckers in the spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonman Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 19 hours ago, yakfish said: Actually its not closed to fishing there. You can fish for other species just not salmon or trout. Unless you have a CO explicitly tell you that you are allowed to fish for other species above the QEW bridge on Twenty Mile Creek then I would not be taking that chance. It is a grey area in the regs and does not specifically say that other species are open to angle in this section of the creek. Tightlines Salmonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelshady Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 On 27/10/2016 at 11:58 AM, deetch said: Can someone explain to me the thrill of catching Salmon at Baileys Bridge? Other than snagging for Roe, what's the interest? When I reported the conditions, it was for people to come and watch with their kids and not to fish. Us locals know very well that this place is for salmon watchers and not fishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 4 hours ago, salmonman said: Unless you have a CO explicitly tell you that you are allowed to fish for other species above the QEW bridge on Twenty Mile Creek then I would not be taking that chance. It is a grey area in the regs and does not specifically say that other species are open to angle in this section of the creek. Tightlines Salmonman Lots of bass, carp and catfish to be caught, we even used to ice fish there back in the 80's, all after the trout season closed and before it opened in spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snags Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 4 hours ago, salmonman said: Unless you have a CO explicitly tell you that you are allowed to fish for other species above the QEW bridge on Twenty Mile Creek then I would not be taking that chance. It is a grey area in the regs and does not specifically say that other species are open to angle in this section of the creek. Tightlines Salmonman The grey area is moving further up stream towards bailys bridge and such, sure there is the odd different species in the creek portion but it is fairly obvious you want fish that are out of season. That pond has everything in it, with plenty of the fish having no season, but your bait will decide your intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakeman4 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 17 hours ago, salmonman said: Unless you have a CO explicitly tell you that you are allowed to fish for other species above the QEW bridge on Twenty Mile Creek then I would not be taking that chance. It is a grey area in the regs and does not specifically say that other species are open to angle in this section of the creek. Tightlines Salmonman its actually pretty black and white, fish for trout or salmon, illegal; anything else goes. To say its a grey area is just misleading. Water that shallow there you might be hard pressed to get a legal hookup with a salmon anyways. Like everyone else has pointed out, its a place to catch salmon with your CAMERA only. Enjoy the stunning accomplishments these fish have waited their whole lives for. Put in a little extra leg work, and you can find many more creeks and waterways that get filled with salmon every year. Basically every outlet of water from inland has the potential for salmon to find their way up. I myself have found them in some pretty unusual places. Ps my dog really loves the salmon run too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfish Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 On 28/10/2016 at 4:26 PM, salmonman said: Unless you have a CO explicitly tell you that you are allowed to fish for other species above the QEW bridge on Twenty Mile Creek then I would not be taking that chance. It is a grey area in the regs and does not specifically say that other species are open to angle in this section of the creek. Tightlines Salmonman No grey area at all. It is part of zone 16 which is open to angling. It is not a fish sanctuary. It is 100% legal to fish for bass, catfish, carp etc. You likely won't be successful above the bridge but you are allowed to try. Below the bridge there are lots of multispecies opportunities. Don't target salmon or trout and you have nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steellee Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 The 'grey area' in many of these situations is the guys who "sucker fish" with roe bags, 13' rods and pins. Pretty common on a lot of Erie tribs. If you really want bass, carp and catfish there is much better spots in niagara to target that's for sure. Suckers tend to run the creeks to spawn around the same time as the rainbows though creating an enforcement issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakfish Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 If a fisherman is breaking the law there should be no problem with enforcing it. They "grey area" developes when people try to apply their own "ethics" to a situation such as this. But we have no "MNR book of ethics". We have regulations and laws, not grey areas. Stick to the regs and keep your ethics to yourself since yours and the guys fishing next to you will most likely be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonman Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Thank you for the clarification folks. I wasn't trying to spark any debate, I was just trying to communicate how I have always interpreted the closed seasons for salmonids, of which my interpretation all of these years has clearly been wrong. The "grey area" can be chalked up to the CO's interpretation of your targeted species that you are fishing for, of which is usually pretty obvious. I have personally never fished this location and was never aware of the other species that you can target in the pond. Tightlines Salmonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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